How Paystand Grew Revenue Nearly 4x Without Taking a Cut of Payments
In August 2018 Jeremy Almond said Paystand’s revenue had grown nearly 4x the year before, on a flat subscription rather than a cut of each payment. He gave no revenue figure, and the $5 million milestone in the episode’s title was Nathan Latka’s number.
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Paystand’s revenue in August 2018 is a number Jeremy Almond did not give. Asked by Nathan Latka how fast the company was growing, he gave the rate instead: revenue grew “nearly four x” in 2017, transaction volume a little faster, about five times, and for 2018 he said Paystand would “probably grow at three and a half x.” Customers paid about $1,500 a month on average for a flat subscription rather than a percentage of the money they collected. The company had raised about $12 million and employed 30 people. The one revenue figure in the conversation, $5 million in ARR, was Latka’s: he asked when Paystand would pass it, and Almond said only, “We’re not far off from doing that.”
Almond co-founded Paystand with Scott Campbell. The company’s about page dates its start to 2013; it came out of beta with a $1 million seed round in April 2014, the year Almond gave Latka as the launch (“2014. So we’ve been out about four years now.”). PYMNTS and Santa Cruz Tech Beat both identified him as Paystand’s CEO in 2017, and the company is based in Scotts Valley, California.
Paystand revenue growth, by who said it
The growth exchange is short, and it is easy to scramble. Latka asked what Paystand was growing at year over year. Almond answered with three numbers in one breath:
The first couple years we grew five x. This last year we grew at nearly four x, and this year we’ll probably grow at three and a half x.
Latka checked the metric, putting the years at 2016 to 2017 and asking whether the four x was transaction volume or revenue. “Both,” Almond said. “Transaction volume is probably a little higher. So it’s transaction volume, I think we grew five x last year.” So in 2017 revenue grew nearly fourfold and payment volume about fivefold. The five x for “the first couple years” came with no metric attached, so it cannot be read as revenue growth.
Then the forecast drifted in the retelling. Latka asked, “You said three or four x this year?”, Almond said “Yeah. That’s right,” and Latka settled on “Three x this year.” His closing recap had Paystand “aiming to grow about three x or four x” in 2018. The only forecast in Almond’s own words is the first one: probably three and a half times, for a year that was still under way.
| Period | Figure | Whose words | What kind |
|---|---|---|---|
| “The first couple years” after the 2014 launch | “we grew five x” | Almond | No metric stated |
| 2017 | Revenue “nearly four x” | Almond (“Both” revenue and volume) | Reported |
| 2017 | Transaction volume, “I think we grew five x” | Almond | Reported, hedged |
| 2018 | “probably grow at three and a half x” | Almond | Forecast |
| 2018 | “three or four x”, “Three x” | Latka’s restatements | Not the guest’s figure |
| 2018 | $5M ARR | Latka’s question | A milestone not yet passed; no figure from Almond |
Recorded in August 2018, so “last year” is 2017 and “this year” is 2018. The 2016-to-2017 span is Latka’s framing, which Almond did not dispute.
The $5 million was Latka’s number
Latka promised not to push after one more question: “When do you think you’ll pass, call it, 5,000,000 in ARR in terms of a run rate?” Almond’s first answer was “We’re not far off from doing that.” Asked whether it would happen that year, he said “We’re not very far off now,” and then, “Could be this year, whatever.” The episode went out in October 2018 as “B2B Version of Venmo About to Pass $5m in ARR”, which is fair only if the $5 million is read as Latka’s milestone rather than Paystand’s figure. Latka’s recap put it a quarter or a few quarters away; that timing is his as well.
Almond gave no revenue, ARR or MRR figure in any form. Any 2018 revenue number credited to this interview did not come from him.
A subscription instead of a percentage
His one-line description was Venmo for companies: “simple way to think of us is what Venmo does between consumers, making payments digital. We do for commercial companies.” When Latka offered Bill.com as the comparison, Almond agreed up to a point (“Yeah. I think so.”) and then drew the line at the rails: “bill.com is really about automation, and what we are is actually changing the payment network.” Paystand, he said, owned its own network and used “something called the blockchain” to run it.
Paystand’s argument in 2018 was that business-to-business payments did not need to carry a card-style fee. Almond’s example was an insurer collecting premiums, stuck between paper checks, which are slow and risk a lapse in coverage when money arrives late, and credit cards, which he said cost “3% for you to receive.” For a company that knows its customer and bills on agreed terms, net 30 and the like, he saw no reason to pay that: “I know this company. I’ve got terms associated to it. ... the credit card model just doesn’t work there.”
Paystand’s alternative was a flat fee. Asked how it made money without taking a percentage, Almond reached for Netflix. The aim was to move the industry from a transactional model, which he likened to renting from Blockbuster, “to a fixed cost SaaS model,” with a monthly subscription that is “sort of all you can eat.” Latka asked what the average customer paid.
Yeah, so on average our customers pay us about $1,500 a month. They go up much higher and there’s a few that’s a little lower than that.
That is an average across customers, not a list price. Latka guessed at a volume-based tier, and Almond did not take it up. He described cohorts by the size of the customer company instead and said “the cost for us is just around support”: a customer with 5,000 employees needs more of it than one with five.
He sized the opportunity with a market figure, not a Paystand one: “there’s $18,000,000,000,000 in commercial payments in The US alone still done in paper checks, so we’ve got a really long way to go.”
Fifty thousand businesses, and which side pays
Almond put the network at “about 50,000 businesses,” and Latka did the obvious multiplication, 50,000 times $1,500 a month. He knew the result was wrong before he said it (“My math is gonna be wrong here, you’re gonna have to correct me”) and asked where. The answer is the core of the model. The 50,000 counts both sides of every payment, the businesses being paid and the businesses paying. “Both sides. Yeah. Exactly.” Paystand charges the side that gets paid.
...we basically charge for the receivable side of the product because effectively, you know, you as a CFO care about speeding up your time to cash, getting your money quicker and at lower cost.
Most of the industry, he said, charges the paying side, for what he called “a vitamin problem”: nice for accounts payable, not a boardroom priority. On the paying side he said only that Paystand charges “a very, very different amount on the payable side than we do on the receivable side.” How many receiving businesses there were he would not say: “we don’t publish those numbers.” He described the network as asymmetric, with most receiving companies having at least a hundred customers of their own, which is a ratio, not a count. When Latka pressed on whether Paystand served a few large accounts or many mid-market ones, the recording loses the answer: the audio breaks into one repeated word for about ten seconds, so there is no answer to report.
Volume, banks and churn
On volume Almond was specific about the unit: “at this point, we’re doing tens of million a day.” Latka had guessed far higher; the daily figure is the answer.
Much of Paystand’s cost sat in the system it was trying to replace. “So we federate with 18,000 banks,” he said, which means setting up accounts and paying for the legacy infrastructure that settles money back into customers’ banks. He framed that as meeting customers where they are, and went back to Netflix: red envelopes of DVDs first, streaming later. The banks were not customers. “We don’t sell to the banks. We certainly partner with them.” He mentioned a partnership with Silicon Valley Bank and First Data announced “a couple weeks ago”; Paystand’s press page dates it to July 18, 2018, when Paystand was selected for Commerce.Innovated., an accelerator program run by SVB and First Data. That fits a recording in early August. His view of the division of labour: “they’re not software companies, and companies like us are not banks.”
Growth was coming almost entirely from businesses joining the network: “It’s mostly new... Net new right now.” Selling more into existing accounts could wait; “right now, we’re really focused on growing the network.” The retention case he made was structural. On a net basis, he said, “we have negative churn,” and he confirmed Latka’s reading that this meant net negative revenue churn annually. His reason: “once you get people in the payment network that’s entirely digital, you’re not moving back to paper check.” He gave no churn percentage.
Paystand in August 2018
“We’re still small, 30 people,” Almond said, and repeated the 30 twice more when Latka could not tell whether he had said thirty or thirteen. Most of the team worked in Scotts Valley. There was a small office in Guadalajara, opened at the beginning of 2018 and growing quickly, and a very small office in Canada that he described as basically a fulfillment center.
His funding figure was “about 12,000,000 to date, more or less.” The rounds with published amounts by then come to $7 million: the $1 million seed of April 2014 and a $6 million Series A in November 2017. LEAP Global Partners also invested in July 2017 without a disclosed amount, which is one reason the published amounts fall short of his roughly $12 million.
Since the interview
Paystand has kept raising, buying and growing. None of the announcements below states a revenue figure; the growth rates are the company’s own claims or its CEO’s, dated as published.
- February 2020 · Series B Paystand raised $20 million, per the VentureBeat headline listed on its press page.
- July 23, 2021 · Series C A $50 million round led by NewView Capital, with SoftBank’s SB Opportunity Fund and King River Capital. Almond told TechCrunch it brought Paystand’s total funding to $85 million. The four rounds with published amounts, seed through Series C, add up to $77 million, $8 million short of his total.
- August 2022 · Yaydoo Paystand acquired Yaydoo, a Mexican accounts-payable and cash-flow software company whose 155 staff joined (Paystand blog, August 3, 2022). Crunchbase News listed Paystand among that month’s new unicorns, “reaching a unicorn valuation through the transaction.” Almond told TechCrunch, in a piece published August 7, 2022, that Paystand had seen over 700% revenue growth in the previous three years, and TechCrunch put the combined company at nearly 400 employees.
- August 22, 2022 · Inc. 5000 Paystand made the Inc. 5000 list for the third straight year, with what it called “a growth rate of 876% over three years.”
- April 25, 2024 · Teampay Paystand acquired Teampay, a spend-management software company, and said its network “now touches over one million businesses.”
- November 7, 2025 · Bitwage Paystand acquired Bitwage, whose platform it had used for years to pay international vendors and contractors in stablecoins.
The fee idea has survived the changes. As of October 2026, Paystand’s homepage says accounts receivable customers “pay a flat annual platform fee, with no per-transaction charges for payments made through the Paystand Network.” The 2018 version was a monthly subscription averaging about $1,500. The current one is annual and priced on “the products, payment volume, integrations, and workflows a business needs,” so volume now shapes the price, but each payment still carries no fee. Almond remains co-founder and CEO, according to the company’s about page. For the figures GetLatka tracks today, see Paystand’s profile; the full recording and transcript are on the interview page.
Sources
- Jeremy Almond, interviewed by Nathan Latka, recorded August 6, 2018: interview page and full transcript; Paystand on GetLatka
- Paystand, about page: paystand.com/about
- Paystand, homepage pricing answer, read October 2026: paystand.com
- Paystand press page (April 2014 seed and beta exit; July 18, 2018 SVB and First Data accelerator; February 2020 Series B): paystand.com/press
- PYMNTS, “LEAP Launches VC Fund, Invests In PayStand”, July 10, 2017: pymnts.com
- Santa Cruz Tech Beat, “PayStand secures $6M Series A funding”, November 16, 2017: santacruztechbeat.com
- TechCrunch, “Paystand banks $50M to make B2B payments cashless and with no fees”, July 23, 2021: techcrunch.com
- Paystand blog, “Welcoming Yaydoo to the Paystand Team”, August 3, 2022: paystand.com/blog
- TechCrunch, “Q3 outlook forecasts cloudy days ahead for fintech M&A”, August 7, 2022: techcrunch.com
- Crunchbase News, “Meet The New Unicorns Minted In August 2022”: news.crunchbase.com
- Paystand blog, “Paystand Named to Inc. 5000 Fastest-Growing Companies for Third Straight Year”, August 22, 2022: paystand.com/blog
- Paystand blog, “Paystand Acquires Teampay: Expanding Network to 1M Businesses”, April 25, 2024: paystand.com/blog
- Paystand blog, “Welcoming Bitwage to the Paystand Team”, November 7, 2025: paystand.com/blog