Ujjainwalla did not name direct competitors to Knak in the interview. The host referenced Chili Piper and Lemlist as examples of other SaaS companies that had recently completed secondary transactions, not as Knak competitors. According to the host, who was describing these as third-party market reference points and not as figures confirmed by Knak or those companies, Chili Piper sold $7 million in secondary shares at a $625 million valuation with $15 million in revenue, while Lemlist sold $30 million in secondary shares representing 20 percent of the business at a $150 million valuation with $10 million in revenue. These figures were presented by the host as market context for secondary transactions and were not confirmed by Ujjainwalla as accurate figures for those companies.